tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582274004296638852.post6310190921366627981..comments2023-12-30T09:35:40.561-07:00Comments on Chiseled in Rock: Elements of Successful Novels: The First Two PagesChiseled in Rockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02545077591839974850noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582274004296638852.post-3938352822557805532012-11-13T09:53:40.670-07:002012-11-13T09:53:40.670-07:00I would wager that if we did the same analysis of ...I would wager that if we did the same analysis of manuscripts that failed we would generate a similar list.<br /><br />In social science, we call this selecting on the dependent variable. If you just look at cases that have a successful outcome, you do not have enough variation to know if they are also found at the same rate in failed outcomes. You need a huge sample of failures and successes and then you need to see if certain independent variables (metaphors, body fluids, and so on) are related to the dependent variable (publication).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582274004296638852.post-90393034326760052332012-11-12T13:37:38.885-07:002012-11-12T13:37:38.885-07:00Since I'm working on revision anyway, I went t...Since I'm working on revision anyway, I went through the check list on the first 5 pages of my MS just for fun. I actually had 11 from this list worked in and could easily work in one or two more. Fascinating. Who knew? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582274004296638852.post-5482242089289124772012-11-12T10:11:26.197-07:002012-11-12T10:11:26.197-07:00Julie, this is an interesting list, isn't it? ...Julie, this is an interesting list, isn't it? <br /><br />Good job, Tamela! <br /><br />Nancy, an excellent point. I think you're right in that two pages from a published book would be roughly equivalent to 4 or 5 pages of a double-spaced draft.Janet Fogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15851442150003050018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582274004296638852.post-88064243102402298822012-11-12T08:29:38.201-07:002012-11-12T08:29:38.201-07:00Sweet list! It reminds me of what Margie Lawson t...Sweet list! It reminds me of what Margie Lawson trains us to look for with her magic markers. Her class must work, because I just looked at the first two pages of my WIP, and I had 10 of them. Best of all, this is my first draft. <br />Woo hoo! Thank you Margie! And thank you Janet, now I'll apply the list and get even more juicy stuff into those pages.Tamelahttp://www.tamelabuhrke.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582274004296638852.post-25172829352462120612012-11-12T07:12:18.563-07:002012-11-12T07:12:18.563-07:00Hi Janet
This would translate into our first 5 pag...Hi Janet<br />This would translate into our first 5 pages if compared to a published book, correct? Especially if we're talking double spaced, 12 pt, Courier New. Just wondering.<br />NancyN. R. Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02174506528962095858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2582274004296638852.post-50291258482059877102012-11-12T06:37:13.354-07:002012-11-12T06:37:13.354-07:00Wow-- what a list. I'm not sure I could boast...Wow-- what a list. I'm not sure I could boast one or two. Fascinating!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com